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Ted Byrne
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« on: December 10, 2007, 09:45:34 PM »

And now for something a tad less subtle...  Grin

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 06:37:53 PM »

Nice sandwich! Is that you in the middle? You lucky devil!... Grin
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2007, 07:12:39 PM »

haha,

great composition, lines are striking - the way his hands reflect his shirt, and the arms doing a similar thing - give the image a striking symmetry. I like what you have done with the background, creates a great dynamism, even though it cuts into the lady's hair on the left.

Great portrait!
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Ted Byrne
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2007, 08:02:15 AM »

It is so easy to be serious with a camera. It is harder to be whimsical, and hardest to be funny. Why is that? Or maybe in the words of a famous British actor when asked on his deathbed if it was hard to die he responded, "Dying? That's easy. Comedy, on the other hand, that's hard."
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 04:23:59 PM »

ted, I am quite sure it has to do with the way we are used to look at pictures. Why is it difficult to be serious with comic strips? In both cases, we have a visual language, no?  I really think it is mostly about how we are used to connotate a certain medium.

You did a great job with the combination of pictures as elements of a comic strip. Noticed how that made the serious pictures of the statues almost hilarious?

So, I'd say pictures can be funny very easy - but you have to put them in a context that the viewer is ready to accept as being a medium that tranports funny content/meanings.

Here, I don't see funny elements mainly - but I see a very happy face. Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 05:28:48 PM »

Me too. I see more of a happy story here than a comical one.
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Ted Byrne
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 11:48:15 AM »

You both make excellent points which have caused me to rethink mine... As an editor of business magazines I have a fine stable of writers who have specialties and styles. They are, of course, different things. Style is a difficult thing in photography to define, and I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THAT BOX HERE!!!! Yipes.... In the case of style re. my writers I am not thinking of the peculiarities which reflect the uniqueness of personality, but rather a grouping by type. For example, some of my writers are technicians and regardless of what they write they will, sooner or later, become engineers. Others are story tellers and they will revel not in the detail but in the narrative.

I have a comic writer. Whatever he writes, at some point, and he cannot help himself, he will produce a line that will make you giggle or chortle or smack-out laugh. on the other hand I have a columnist who is a humorist. He will never make you giggle, chortle or whatever. But you will always finish his work rubbing your chin, muttering "Hmmmmm....", through a smile.

The thing above is happy. I like it that you've identified that. Yes.. .yes... you are right. I agree. So I guess when I wrote about humor and photography I was describing an umbrella that would cover both my comic writer and my humorist. And I guess what I note is that our medium has a "serious-bias" built in. No... no... a comic or a humorist can be quite serious. Maybe I mean that this medium has a "ponderous-bias" built in?

Is it the nature of the medium to deaden smiles? Is it, if not the opposite of, then at least a contradiction to... happiness? Photography can make you feel good (although that will rarely get you hung on a museum wall) but can it make you... happy? Of course it can. So why is it so rare?

I'm not talking here about the sentimental shot of charming child or snoozing pet. I'm wondering about the expression of the human condition in ways that communicate through our sense of joy. How frequently do we see unashamedly happy images? And why is it so infrequent? Grin




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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 05:53:15 PM »

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I'm wondering about the expression of the human condition in ways that communicate through our sense of joy. How frequently do we see unashamedly happy images? And why is it so infrequent?

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Maybe I mean that this medium has a "ponderous-bias" built in?

Curious. The past few days I've been playing with what I feel are simply joyful pans of Christmas ornaments -- movement, line and color. Then today caught an image of pigeon tracks in the snow that look like arrows to me, saying "which way, which way?!" The first makes me happy; the second makes me smile. And I don't feel either has the "depth" for posting (to this forum or elsewhere).

Hmmm...
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 07:22:16 PM »

You guys want funny photos? And at the same time smart ones that refer to great works of surrealist painters? I've been sent to this site by someone and I really enjoyed and laughed at those spoofs some time ago: http://ifun.ru/comments/joke1955.html. The original photos come from this site, though: http://www.chemamadoz.com/
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 02:04:12 PM »

you are probably right in saying that photography is a medium with a built in "ponderous-bias". Interesting point to make! Once voiced it is quite apparent.

I am not entirely sure what it is you mean by "unashamedly happy images", and if that is different from funny, but humerous, funny images need to convey emotion in a particular way - either through a co-incidence, abstraction, direct empathy, or anthropomorphising. Each of them are difficult to spot or photograph. I just made up these four categories so I will give a brief explanation as to what I mean: Co-incidence, probably more on the humourous side - shots like some of those by Eliott Erwitt; Abstraction, possibly those kind of shots which eob linked above, things that make one smile, things taken out of context; Direct Empathy, like your shot above, in which one can feel happiness that someone else feels; and finally anthropomorphising: shots into which one can infer emotion - in animals or inanimate objects.

But the harder it is the better it is to get one of those elusive humerous shots. Happy snapping! I am hooked on that idea.

Just as an example of the Erwitt shots I mean is this one where the terrier merges with the woman's face, funny:
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 04:37:15 PM »

What I find interesting here, is the circumstance that we have less of a problem with funny pictures whenever it is about animals, or at least involves animals. What makes that difference? Why can we more easily laugh about funny animal pictures than pictures of mankind? It might be buried in the way we define and udnerstand ourself...

Whatever... here are two pictures of "Black and White" - those two donkeys I met when on a lengthy snow shoe tour in the swiss alps:

http://www.voegtli.net/gallery/fauna/donkeylaugh001.900.jpg
and
http://www.voegtli.net/gallery/fauna/donkeylaugh002.900.jpg

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 05:51:48 PM »

Yeah, I remember those two! They're funny... Grin
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